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Brussels protest against Turkish government policies and Iraq war
by TAYAD Committee Sunday February 09, 2003 at 12:32 AM
tayadkomite@hotmail.com 02/230.08.66

On Saturday February 8, a protest against Turkish government policy and imperialism's Iraq war was held in Brussels. The protest highlighted the deaths of 104 people in Turkey in the fight against isolation prisons, as well as the Turkish government's cooperation with imperialism's threats against Iraq.

Protest in Brussels against Turkey's isolation prisons and Iraq war

A protest march was held in Brussels today (Saturday, February 8) to denounce the policies of Turkey's government and, more broadly, the imperialist war on Iraq. The march was organized by the TAYAD Committee, a political prisoners' support committee from Turkey. About 250 people marched with red flags and banners from the Schuman roundabout in central Brussels to the Turkish embassy, shouting slogans denouncing the Turkish government's use of F-Type isolation prisons against revolutionaries, 104 of whom have died opposing the introduction of these prisons. The Turkish government's cooperation with the USA and Britain in threatening Iraq with was also condemned, as was its total servility to US policy, completely contrary to the wishes of Turkey's people. One slogan was, "Down with servitude to the USA!"

The marchers wanted to stand in front of the Turkish embassy on the Rue Montoyer but were stopped just short of it by a barricade, behind which stood Belgian police dressed in riot gear. After listening to a speech and shouting further slogans, the protesters turned round and walked back to the Schuman roundabout where another rally was held on the large traffic island there and a minute's silence was held in honour of the revolutionary martyrs. After that the march dispersed.

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Hint
by Hind Sunday February 09, 2003 at 02:16 AM

Maybe, if you feel so, it's possible to call upon the "Islamical" principles of justice and on how islam teaches how to deal well with prisoners (of war) ?

What sence does it make to call yourself and the government you might be part of "Islamical" if the behavior is not different from the former US-slave-governments?

to Hind
by Kengred Sunday February 09, 2003 at 12:50 PM

Can you explain what the hell you're talking about? Why are you talking about 'islamical principes' in reaction of an article posted by Tayad (who is linked to DHKP-C, a marxist revolutionary organisation)??
In fact yes, whit or whitout an 'islamic' participation into Turkish governement, Turkey will stay a strategic satelit of US Imperialism.

It's not about hell of heaven but about communication
by Hind Monday February 10, 2003 at 12:58 AM

Why am I talking about 'Islamic principles' in reaction of an article posted by Tayad, that is indeed linked to DHKP-C, a Marxist revolutionary organisation?

If you study Marx and Engels, you'll notice they acted primarly against the position of the christian church, who, as an institution chose the side of the oppressive forces. Already in their time there were revolutionaries who studies Islam as a freeing force. Marx write to Engels about Weitling(?) about him preaching a 'revolutionary Islam'. Engels urged revolutionaries to study Arabic and El Afghani must have been in Paris during or about when the Community of Paris was to explode. El Afghanis is the most famous scholar explaining certain parts of the Koran from a social viewpoint. (Social exegesis). He was an internationalist in many ways.

It's all about communication. Communication with the masses and communication with anyone who holds now positions that can facilitate a transition towards the change we strive for. (…)
With the former government(s) it was hard to set up any dialogue. With this "Islamic" government, an inroad could be to confront them with principle they say to foster: (so called) "Islamic principles".

As we all know it is forbidden in Islam to be cruel to prisoners (of war). If one protests it might be a good tactic to confront a government that is saying to hold strongly to Islamic principles with its actual policy.
After all the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, must have said that "The utmost form of djihaat is to confront a tyrannical ruler with truth." This government won't like it at all to be confronted in a way that it is pictured as hypocritical. Being a hypocrite is a major sin, according to Islam (according to any moral standard, I would think).

In my opinion, communists might lend a hand to Muslims on how to deal with certain economical realities that form the base of much oppression. (Don't forget freeing (labor) slaves is also for Muslims a highly regarded act. Neither forget Islam is a major moving force for the masses, certainly in Turkey and vicinity).

Next to that, honest communists might help society to avoid tendencies to slip into religious-madness. Of course, communists also must expose those forces that cooperate with the oppressive class; in violation of Islam that, if studied, can be, and is widely, considered as a freeing force. Class-solidarity (corporatism) is not the same as being able to contribute to personal and social welfare by submitting to regulations that both respect someone's (religious) believes and enhance in a human way production. For long there will be class struggle but that fight won't be won until the hearts of all have been won to respect one another. That's an other Islamic principle.
The great djihaad is with one's own temper and bad desires. Patience is needed for that; just as class-fight(s) aren't won from one day on the other.


On the other hand, Muslims might give interesting reflections on - in their opinions - way to narrow-minded materialistic policies and some organizational issues that have led to much pain in the past. It's an obligation for communists to listen to the people. "In the interest of the people, of the party and of the country".

The revolution, after all, will be made on the base of cooperation between all striving towards a better, in all ways, world. (If one doesn't want to believe in an afterlife that's a personal choise. Even an "Islamical state", making it possible also religious people can live according to their believes, recognizes that principle).


Hasta la victoria siempre !
(Until final victory !)