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Des agents israéliens interceptés le 11 septembre 2001
by arty Friday October 25, 2002 at 03:14 PM
arty@ARTivisme.net

Le 11 septembre 2001, une habitante de New York observe de son appartement, avec une paire de jumelles, les tours du WTC en train de brûler. Soudain, quelque chose attire son attention : elle aperçoit distinctement, dans un parking d'immeuble, trois hommes sur le toit d'une camionnette blanche en train de se faire filmer avec les tours du WTC en arrière-plan.

N'étant pas très éloignée, la dame remarque que les trois hommes rigolent pendant qu'ils se font filmer. Intriguée, elle note le numéro d'immatriculation du véhicule puis prévient la police. Quelques heures plus tard le véhicule est intercepté : à son bord se trouvent cinq hommes de nationalité israélienne dont un en possession de 4.700 $ et de deux passeports étrangers. Les cinq hommes travaillent pour une petite société de déménagement appelée Urban Moving Around, propriétaire de la camionnette blanche. Ces personnes sont arrêtées et le patron de la société (aussi de nationalité israélienne) est interrogé une première fois puis relâché. Lorsque la police US veut l'interroger une seconde fois, elle découvre que les bureaux de la société ont été abandonnés en urgence et que le patron est retourné en Israël avec sa famille. L'enquête progresse cependant rapidement et révèle que toutes ces personnes sont des agents des services de renseignement israéliens. L'affaire restera cependant sans suite : suite à un accord entre les gouvernements US et israélien, les cinq employés sont libérés et autorisés à regagner Israël, ce qu'ils font sans tarder.

précision
by arty Friday October 25, 2002 at 04:02 PM
arty@ARTivisme.net

Je n'ai pas correctement traduit la dernière phrase : les cinq hommes n'ont pas été AUTORISES à retourner en Israël, ils ont été EXPULSES des USA et placés dans un avion pour Israël.

Explications SVP
by R.B. Friday October 25, 2002 at 04:17 PM

D'où sort cette histoire ?`
Et faut en tirer, éventuellement, quel genre de conclusion ?

Met tes lunettes
by Julie Friday October 25, 2002 at 06:19 PM

Pour savoir d'où ça vient il suffit de cliquer sur le lien en rouge en-dessous du texte.

Anonyme
by R.B. Friday October 25, 2002 at 08:20 PM

Maria, la "témoine", a comme de juste réclamé l'anonymat
Que faut-il, éventuellement, conclure de ce "témoignage" ?

simple, n'est-ce pas?
by guido Saturday October 26, 2002 at 06:07 AM
pannekoekrobert@hotmail.com

"5. [Federal investigators] arrested a group of Jews who set up video cameras on the roof of one of the Israeli companies across from the WTC a little while before the incident, in order to film the moment of the explosions. This proves that Zionist elements knew what was about to happen. The Israeli paper Ha'aretz noted that the federal investigators had arrested five Zionists who worked for a moving company owned by a Zionist in nearby New Jersey on suspicion of involvement in the explosions. The police interrogated them for three days, which came only four hours after the incident as they were filming the explosions and dancing with glee. The newspaper added that one of the suspects was interrogated for 14 hours straight on suspicion of belonging to the Mossad after it became clear that he had European citizenship in addition to his Israeli citizenship – something only Mossad agents are allowed."

http://www.factsofisrael.com/load.php?p=http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000126.html

http://www.aijac.org.au/updates/Jan-02/210102.html

Release 1.2, June 30/02
"Within an hour of the attacks on the WTC towers, five Israelis were spotted filming the burning buildings from Liberty State Park across the Hudson River in New Jersey. The person who spotted and reported their strange behaviour to the FBI immediately. They were "shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery."19 The five men, described as "Israeli tourists," were picked up by the FBI, but there have been no further reports of their fate. This apparently real celebration provides an ironic contrast with the faked Palestinian one."
http://www.sumeria.net/politics/bushknew/ghostriders.html

"Five Israelis were caught filming the smoking rubble from their office building; but you never heard about because it was hushed up by the FBI on orders from Washington. There were so many television and other pictures of the planes hitting the towers and the towers falling only because cameras had been pre-positioned round the site."
http://www.mideastweb.org/EvansMedia.htm


"The explosive story of the 5 suspicious Israelis seen celebrating while filming the attacks on the WTC was ... reported nationally in American Free Press shortly after September 11. NBC News recently reported on this story and added a comment that deserves attention: The Forward, a ... Jewish newspaper in New York, reported that at least two of the men were Israeli intelligence (Mossad) agents.

The Israeli agents were first seen filming the attack on the WTC while kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of a New Jersey apartment building across the river from lower Manhattan. "They seemed to be taking a movie," the resident who noticed them said. "The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the WTC burning in the background," she said. What struck her were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were, like, happy, you know. They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange."

She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. The FBI was soon on the scene and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van, which, it was later discovered, belonged to a Mossad front company called Urban Moving Systems.

Around 4:00 p.m. on September 11, when the van was pulled over, five Israelis: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner, and Omer Marmari -- all between 22 and 27 years old -- were arrested at gunpoint. One had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock, while another carried two foreign passports. Box cutters were found in the van.

"We are not your problem."

According to the police report, one of the men said they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident." Referring to the WTC attack, Sivan Kurzberg, the driver, said, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The case was turned over to the FBI's Foreign Counterintelligence Section because -- as reported on ABC -- "The FBI believed Urban Moving Systems was a cover for an Israeli intelligence operation."

While the FBI searched the company's Weehawken, N.J. offices, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives, the owner of the company, Dominic Suter, was allowed to flee the country. When FBI agents tried to interview Suter a second time they discovered that he had cleared out of his New Jersey home and fled to Israel.

When ABC reporters visited Urban Moving Systems, "it looked as if it had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse."

The Israelis had been held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported, however, FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case, according to ABC.

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days and given as many as seven lie-detector tests. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie detector test for 10 weeks and then failed it [when he did finally take it], according to his lawyer.

"Our purpose was to document the event."

A deal was struck between Israeli and U.S. government officials after 71 days and the five Israelis were put on a plane and deported to Israel. The detained Israelis discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. One of the men said: "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." Source. American Free Press. by Christopher Bollyn, via The Hellenic Forum."

http://www.grecoreport.com/resource_notes.htm

Pas le MOSSAD, mais la CIA !
by do Saturday October 26, 2002 at 10:25 PM
do@mai68.org

Salut à tous et toutes,

Une fois de plus, il est possible que le MOSSAD ait eu l'idée du 11 sept. Mais il est impossible qu'il l'ait accompli tout seul. En effet, seul l'État étasunien lui-même avait la possibilité de donner l'ordre à l'armée de l'air de ne pas intercepter les avions pirates.

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