arch/ive/ief (2000 - 2005)

The four PFLP members that were accused of plotting and executing the assassination plan of the former Israeli tourism minister and ex-general Rehavam Zeefi in the northern district of the Al-Quds (Jerusalem), in revenge for the assassination of the former PFLP secretary general Abu Ali al-Mustafa by Israeli mercenaries, have been condemned, and are under US and UK detention.
But is Israel doing something about these murderers?? No, of course. IDF is above the law. They can kill whoever they want, and never face any trial.
Support a trial for war crimes against mastermind murderer Ariel Sharon, and his cabinet.

Members of the FPLP have killed this minister because he was one of the most fascist person of the Israeli governement. Is that a murder? No, they've killed a fascist general, this is but a legitimated execution.

How would you call someone who shoot a fascist soldier? A partisan, a freedom fighter? How could you call those who killed one of the engine of the oppression of a whole population?
They are heroes.

There was a time (I guess it was when the Romans ruled the world) that political murders were not qualified like murders and were not punished.

I wonder if it would be a good thing to re-install that kind of system...

Are you gonna qualify every persons who killed to save lifes "a murderer"?

Are you gonna call the partisans who killed Nazi soldiers "murderers"?

Are you gonna the palestiniens activists trying to protect the few rights they have "murderers"?

Are you gonna call the few persons who tried to stop Pinochet coup with weapons "murderers"?

You better save such words for the real murderers: those who organize the world slaughtery for profit. Sometimes you have to chose: kill to save lifes and freedom, or collaborate with the fascists.

This reminds of songs from the Manic's:
'if I can shoot rabbits, than I can shoot fascists...'
'and...if you tolerate this, than your children will be next, will be next, will be next..'

It isn't a good thing to use the qualification: "save other people's lives"; the soldiers in Afghanistan and Palestine believe that's what they're doing...

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

I would be please to continue this debate, but this place isn't actually a forum for face to face discussion...

Nobody wants to kille anybody, i think. My point is just: if you have the extremist option not to ever kill anybody, whatever the situation is, whatever the consequences will be, it just means that you'll have to watch people being killed again and again...

If (well we can rebuild the all world with "if", but still...), if Salvadore Allende had organize (earlyer) the armed resistance of the people against Pinochet, he may have saved thousands and thousands of lifes, and avoid years of torture ans oppression. What would you have said to him "Don't take that gun or you'll be a murderer".

You don't answer to me: are the partisans who opposed Nazis invasion murderers? Well Nazis did said so...

Perhaps Manic Street Preachers sing that, but at the same time they showed strong support to the cuban socialist revolution. Do they think that revolution succeeded with flowers and no guns? Do they think Che Guevara was some kind of romantic Ghandi?
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