BLACK MASKED AGENT PROVOCATEURS AT THE GENOA G-8 SUMMIT by Joel Skousen Sunday August 05, 2001 at 11:28 PM |
A nasty pattern is emerging which lends credence to the suspicions of many observers that almost all the violent acts perpetrated at the various international summits are the work of government sponsored agent provocateurs.
A nasty pattern is emerging which lends credence to the suspicions of many observers that almost all the violent acts perpetrated at the various international summits are the work of government sponsored agent provocateurs. During the Seattle riots I quoted one on-the-scene source who observed several things that pointed to police collusion with the few black masked demonstrators who were causing all the vandalism of local businesses. First, the police never attempted to stop them nor apprehend them even when it was clearly in their power to do so. Second, several of the violent perpetrators were seen taking off their masks and blending back into police formations. One was later seen arresting demonstrators, indicating he worked for the police. A similar pattern has been documented at the latest international summit in Genoa, Italy. Here is an account by an on-site witness to the Genoa "Black Bloc," as these agents are now known. He is Stefano Agnoletto, the brother of Vittorio Agnoletto, a high ranking representative of the Genoa Social Forum, a leftist group in Italy. I don't usually quote from leftist groups, but since they are the obvious targets of these agent provocateurs, we need to consider the reasons why.
"I arrive to Genoa on Thursday, after an immigrant's rights demonstration of about 50,000 people. There are arrival camps, many, thousands of peaceful people, a marvelous atmosphere...The various groups participating will converge in different points of the city to have a carnivalesque 'siege' against the 'red area' [the downtown zone surrounding the G8 convention, in which demonstrations were prohibited] with street theater, dancing and slogans. At this point, from the beach-front, members of the now infamous 'Black Bloc' arrive. Some are seen chatting with police, others just come out of police crowds. Most of them speak German. They start to break everything. Police and Carabinieri [Italian military police] just stand there. The Black Bloc tries to join in with a group of COBAS workers [COBAS is an Italian trade union]. They beat up one of their leaders, the group manages to stay clear of them with some difficulty. Then the Black Bloc makes head for the first issue area, belonging to the Italian Social Centers... The police goes after them, and demonstrators find themselves attacked first by the Black Bloc and then by the police, which starts to charge violently against all demonstrators... The Black Bloc leaves the square and starts to vandalize the city systematically. 300-400 of the Black Bloc roam Genoa, and whoever guides them seems to know the city very well . . . It's incredible. They move with military discipline, infiltrate everywhere, some leaders shout orders which are promptly followed by the whole group. And, shortly afterwards, police and Carabinieri make their appearance . . To sum it up, two nightmare days. Both the Black Bloc and the police knew what they were doing when they committed this violence. All along, from Friday, they insulted and verbally abused us as they did what they did, someone seems to have brainwashed them. My brother Vittorio told me: It's crazy, it seems we are in Latin America during the '70s [referring to the way the Argentine military went after the Communists]. Maybe even he did not realize fully with whom are we dealing here."
It is important to note the similarities between the Seattle and Genoa riots. In both Genoa and Seattle, it is very clear that the vast majority of protesters came peacefully and had no intentions of destroying anything. Yet as in Seattle, the military and police forces on hand in Genoa were ready and armed for major riots. Very few of the police were local. Most were federalized police forces brought in--just like in Seattle. The orders came from the federal level--not local.
In both cases, it was a carefully trained cadre of specialists, linked with police, which provided the spark of violence to which the police forces responded with military-style intervention and brutality. It is noteworthy that the police carefully avoided hurting or arresting the real culprits, and delivered severe beatings only to the innocent bystanders who were simply trying to flee the scene. The Seattle case was particularly suspicious because the level of federal involvement, evidence of prior training, and availability of special weapons indicated that the federal government had complete foreknowledge of the kinds of violence to expect--even though there had been no major violence at prior summits.
Here's what we can conclude. Somebody wanted violence in order to justify a massive police intervention. Part of the reason was that somebody wanted an excuse to expose these new elite police units to real life training on real people. Most countries, including the US, regularly train for urban warfare, one of the primary aspects of which involves controlling adverse public reaction --an indication that the ultimate aim of that training is local rather than foreign. But there is more. The police forces must have also had some type of off-the-record instructions to deal roughly with the demonstrators--even innocent ones. There is no other way to explain the kinds of brutal beatings meted out to demonstrators who were not resisting in any way. This may indicate some desire to foment anti-police hatred within the ranks of the leftists demonstrators, to incite further social unrest later on. It also may be a way of selectively recruiting and testing special forces that do not object to or balk at this kind of cruelty. In a corrupt military system, a general commitment to "following orders" only goes so far before good men begin to refuse evil orders. All totalitarian forces, whether Hitler's Brown Shirts or Italy's Fascist Black Shirts, recruited thug-like people for their elite units who could be depended upon to crack heads without feeling guilty.
Incidentally, if the Powers That Be really wanted to avoid violence altogether they could easily have held this meeting privately, without fanfare at some out-of-the-way location. I think the PTB want these summit forums to be big public affairs as a propaganda tool to promote the globalist agenda and get the public used to submitting to the inevitability of it all (because all the world is going along). Perhaps that is why they must foment violence--so as to put the opposition in an evil light.
Agnoletto's last statement is very telling--that his brother, a very experienced Marxist leftist on the international scene, did not realize who he was dealing with. It appears that many on the hard left in Europe still don't realize that the "Third Way" socialists of the NWO are not their allies, but competitors for control of the NWO. Among the NWO globalists, there is a division between the European left faction and the American-British globalists who control the finances of the NWO. But I don't think this was a factional fight between them. If it were, the entire travesty would likely have been orchestrated by the American/British faction, since Italy's PM, Silvio Berlusconi, is on that side of the NWO. However, the majority of Black Bloc rioters were from Germany, which means that Germany's secret services were probably involved. Germany is clearly on the European side of this factional battle for control of the NWO. Apparently, the motives for organizing these violent upheavals at international globalist summits transcend the factional differences.
CONFIRMATION OF OTHER HEGELIAN TACTICS ON BEHALF OF WORLD COURT
Several weeks ago, I covered recent instances of individual nations or judges presumptuously attempting to enforce international law on persons not citizens of their own country. The most notorious example was Chile's Augusto Pinochet, who had been placed under arrest in Britain on orders from a Marxist judge in Spain. Israeli leaders, among others, are being cautioned not to travel to certain countries where judges may have them arrested and tried on international "war crimes" charges. In my analysis I stated that one motive for these ad-hoc courts may be to force the rest of the world into a defensive position that builds support for a single World Court, an entity which so far has had few supporters among nations that value their sovereignty. True enough, Henry Kissinger came out in his most recent book (third and final volume of his memoirs Years of Renewal) and in an interview on the subject addressed this very issue. "But I do think the procedure, where a magistrate in one country--where the alleged crimes did not occur--can issue an arrest warrant for a former leader of a country elsewhere and that they then become criminalized through the extradition procedure, is extremely dangerous," Kissinger said. He went on to say that this is the key reason the world needs to support the World Court--creating a single jurisdiction for the indictment of violators of human rights.
RUMORED IRAQI INTRUSION INTO JORDAN--PRELUDE TO WAR IN ISRAEL?
Both Debka.com and Stratfor.com (private intelligence outlets for the Israeli Mossad and the CIA, respectively) announced this week that Iraq has sent a heavily armed force of 1,000 to 1,500 elite commandos into the Jordanian desert wadis en route to an attempted invasion of the occupied West Bank of Israel. Their assumed intent is to link up with the Palestinians and widen the war against Israel. It was also reported that there are another 15,000 troops massing on the border. According to these reports, the movements were discovered by Israeli satellite intelligence and relayed personally to King Abdullah of Jordan. Debka revealed that Israel is working in concert with Jordan due to a secret mutual defense pact signed between King Abdullah and Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin.
Jordan, being a small power in the Arab military scheme, has always been vulnerable to outside pressures. The pact was necessary to counter just such an eventuality as this, where Jordan is powerless to counter Saddam Hussein's forces. Jordan cannot openly admit to such a pact with Israel lest it be viewed as a traitor to the rest of the Arab world, and Israel has to keep its occasional movements in Jordan a secret so that Jordan's cover is not blown. In any case, what is significant about this reported intrusion, if it is real, is the failure of any of the establishment media to cover the story. I'm not sure the reports are valid. Debka has been wrong before about predicting a regional war. Barry Chamish, my primary Israeli source, cannot confirm it among his contacts, and he frankly doubts it is true. However, the US is itching for another excuse to go after Saddam Hussein, so if we see a US strike against Iraq in the next few days, it will be a confirmation that this threat is real. Abdullah is in a tough situation if he allows Hussein to bully him. Abdullah's position in Jordan is none too strong and he may lose his kingdom to one of the numerous Arab factions that hate the Heshemites. If he shows too much favor towards the US or Israel, he will be branded a traitor to the Arab Cause.
Meanwhile, Arafat seems to be counting on one or two Arab nations to come through with the promised support--judging by his suicidal behavior in taking on the Israelis alone. Without it, or the hoped-for intervention of the UN, his prolonged war of attrition with Israel will not succeed. If the Iraqi intrusion is real, I predict we'll see the US handle it without reference to either Jordan's or Israel's participation.
DAMAGE HIGH FROM CLINTON HOLDOVERS IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
Attorney General John Ashcroft has finally replaced Lee J. Radek, the Clinton holdover who was responsible, along with Deputy AG Eric Holder, for sabotaging the Justice Department probes into the Chinagate campaign contributions investigation under Janet Reno. Conservatives are cheering, but I'm not satisfied. It's a little late. They let him stay around long enough to kill the project and we will never see it resurrected. Radek cut plea bargains and sweetheart deals with all 26 principle defendants and never once prosecuted any of the White House or Democratic Party officials who were recipients of the illegal campaign contributions. Don't expect Ashcroft to do so--it's always "water under the bridge" with this administration. Radek is to be replaced this month by Andrew Lourie, currently a federal prosecutor in the Miami US attorney's office--a relatively unknown player, but part of the Reno appointment group. By the way, Radek is a very close friend of Bush's new FBI director-designate Robert Mueller.
Conservatives were also pleased when Bush named former lead Senate Whitewater prober Michael Chertoff to head up the Justice Department's criminal division. Chertoff was noted for his piercing investigations of Dan Lasater, Clinton's money launderer for the Mena, Arkansas-CIA drug deals. When I read the transcript of Chertoff's findings, which clearly implicated Clinton, I wondered, if he was really on the side of truth, why he allowed Ken Starr to let Clinton off the hook. We've heard nothing from Chertoff about this great travesty of justice. But considering Chertoff's background, I'm not surprised. He graduated from Harvard, mentored under Watergate prosecutor Archibald Cox, worked as a US attorney in New York under Rudy Giuliani, and then moved on to private practice with Latham and Watkins (a huge firm tied to the left-liberal establishment). His credentials are anything but conservative.
Another holdover is David Tarbell, the director of the Defense Technology Security Administration (DTSA), the Pentagon agency in charge of reviewing dual-use technology exports). According to WorldNetDaily.com, Tarbell has ordered "the wholesale destruction of classified documents relating to controversial sales of military technology to China and Russia during the Clinton presidency. The documents include top-secret intelligence reports on foreign-weapons programs and front companies, as well as memoranda documenting Pentagon decisions to allow US companies to sell advanced technology directly to Russian and Chinese military facilities..." According to one Pentagon analyst quoted by WND, "These internal letters, memos and records of conversations are just the type of thing that Congress likes to subpoena when it conducts oversight on our export-control system...Now the entire record of what's happened here over the past eight years is gone."
Yes, conservatives can cheer that Tarbell won't last, but why did the Bush administration insist on delaying the replacement of him and other Clinton cronies for so long? Certainly Bill Clinton and Janet Reno had no reluctance in making a wholesale sweep of the conservative Bush appointees (what few there were), replacing them all with radical leftist activists, most of whom are still at work throughout the various agencies of government. In a recent WND poll, a whopping 83% of WND readers approved of George W. Bush's performance as president. Either they aren't reading the evidence on the screens in front of them or they are incapable of drawing proper conclusions.
Hello CIA by a B.Blocker Monday August 06, 2001 at 01:15 AM |
Ce type est payé par la CIA ou quoi ?
Bel exemple de manipulation comme on en fait la
démonstration dans le texte "une manipulation peut en cacher une autre".
YOU TAKE THE MONEY FROM CIA ! Black Block fuck you !!!!
je veux discuter avec toi by protest Monday August 06, 2001 at 01:41 AM |
protesta@wol.be |
je suis un militant mondialisatiobn, pas payé par la cia :-) qui veut juste discuter avec quelqu'un se revendiquant des black blocks, j'ai plein de questions a lui poser. envoye moi un mail a protesta@wol.be
sam
eerste reactie by Mara Monday August 06, 2001 at 09:31 AM |
In tegenstelling tot de eerste reactie, vind ik dit een heel interessant artikel.
Het is geschreven door iemand die zich niet verbonden voelt met de linkse beweging, maar op bepaalde momenten wel dezelfde conclusies moet trekken over wat er in Genua is gebeurt.
En wat betreft de CIA, ik wacht nog steeds op iemand die mij de beelden kan geven die op de avond van 21 juli zijn uitgezonden op 'Zona Rossa' de lokale TV in Genua (die zich voor de gelegenheid van naam had verandert).
Op die avond zijn er 2 x dezelfde beelden uitegezonden , beelden opgenomen vanuit een politiehelikopter. Deze beelden tonen een witte bestelwagen die doorheen de politiecordons heen midden in de betoging kan stoppen, en aan enkele manifestanten bstokken en maskers uitdeelt.
De politie in de helikopter dacht aanvankellijk waarschijnlijk dat het hier over activisten ging.
Toen ze door hadden dat dit over 'zeer gevoelige informatie ging', zijn deze beelden nooit meer uitgezonden.
Who is using who by han Monday August 06, 2001 at 11:00 AM |
han@skynet.be |
I think this artickle is verry intresting.
As for me I do not think Black Block = CIA, but it is clear that Black Block is used by secret services, police,...
Those who keep on denying this are blind.
It should be a reason for those who proclaim themselves being "Black Block" to rethink their strategie.
And I do agree that the same goes for those who are taking distance of the activists that used violence.
They are also used by secres services and politicians to devide the movement and eaven worse bringing the movement to a political acceptable movement for those in power.
In solidarity.
han
how long.... by soy4life Monday August 06, 2001 at 01:45 PM |
So, hopefully all of you can read it in english so why stop it... it is clear that their was a part of provocation within de "violent demonstraters", but I think also on belgium Indymedia there was a Black blc communiqué on the same day saying they walked away from them... what the fuck areyou still talking about?
I agree that Black Bloc has at least to make their goals more clear...but what is all this commotion about violent protest anyway, it's nothing new, isn't it? So who has any problem with it, who is used?
By the way did one of you go to this Joel Skoussen's webpage...doesn't that tell you enough? This guy is clearly lieing! All that about COBAS is clearly Bullshit!
And to finish, remember one of the 'violent protesters was killed...so stop playing the victims OK?
We are victims. by han Monday August 06, 2001 at 02:13 PM |
First of all we are victims. Tha IMC orgainzed a raid aganist the IMC and GSF. So we are victims of police violence.
Secondly the story about Cobas is reality, it is confirmed i a couple of other reports. As well on the Italian IMC as on other IMC's,...
In Seattle Black Block attacked protesters that were trying to prevent them from doing property dammage.
As for me I do not believe in Black Block tactics, what does not mean I ame a pacifist. Black Block tactics are used by secret services and police,.... it should make people rethink their strategie.
As for me the state is violent, ...
We have the right to defend ourselves,....
But that has nothing to do with Black Block tactics.
And you got it right. The artickle is written by a person that is involved in the movement,... he eaven is against it. But he has to admit that most of the violence and property dammage coming from te protesters is orchestrated by police forces.
Should make you think ....
victims...but victims of what? by soy4life Monday August 06, 2001 at 02:38 PM |
wel Han looks like we're goin' into discussion a lot...but that's OK for me. No offence...isn't it?
Yeas the IMC and GSF (and all other activist that where present on the scene) are victims...of police brutality. We are agree with that isn't it? Don't tell me all this is the fault of the violent demonstrators.. that is turning things upsidedown. There are many expierences of police violence without any voilence comming from protesters...and by the way, what's police made for, why are they in such a large numbers on demo's...to stop cars? I know you're not Han, but some people are really naive, don't you think so?
About that COBAS story...there was a phone contact between the BB and Cobas to join at the march (this is a repport, I wasn't there...so I can't know all about it either, but it looks like this contact was fake (police?) and then used by police to beat in everyone...so, is that the BB fault? The only thing that can be said is that they should watch out better for infiltration provocation, etc...
Yeas, police uses BB methods for provocation, but does that mean that the BB methods are by definition wrong? This is absurd!
And to finish i propose sto talking about Black bloc (or in other words the bad anarchists)... Tutt Bianchi went very voilent as well as Ya Basta, Turkish Communists, Basque people, etc... and just other folks shocked by the police voilence and the arogance of the G8 leaders. In fact I think that the debate is used in en certain way because it's talking only about BB=violence, and all who have a good look knows this is rubbish!
Oh, yeah, forgot. Han, if you went a lot to demos, you know how peacefull 'pacifists' are when they are confronted with people who don't think the same way... yes I was beaten by pacifists because I wanted to trow a stone (and that was in Belgium).. so, sorry but I'll don't need that crap anymore!
So, lokking forward to some reaction...
sorry .... by han Tuesday August 07, 2001 at 02:19 AM |
Black Block is not the same as Anarchists,...
Some people made that verry clear on this website.
I do understand the Rage of a lot of people against this sytems that kills about 11.000.000 children every year.
I do understand the rage of a lot of people oposing a police force that is only there to protect the happy few,...
But I do not believe that you can change annything with a couple of hundred people.
That is my main problem with BB tactics.
If BB would be focussing on ghetting more people involved,... the tactics would change.
"We don't want peace, we want class war"
Black block slogan on Genova walls and banners
Strange, tell me who the fuck wants war .... beside the military industrie.
If class war is needed it is to achieve peace.
My motto has always been : oorlog aan de oorlog.
(war to war)
cheers
Una Reflexion sobre la Violencia Necesaria by P@vel Wednesday August 08, 2001 at 03:38 PM |
pavelic_jofre@hotmail.com |
Guerra a la guerra SI!, pero...
si no ha habido tormenta, ¿como llegara la calma?
construyamos una alternativa de izquierda, unica, unida, necesaria, con un proyecto creible, sin sectarimos y luego JUNTOS partiremos en crusada contra el sistema explotador.
Saludos Revolucionarios...
Pavel
UNITE by miluskay@ Thursday August 09, 2001 at 06:50 PM |
La seule difference entre le violent et le non-violent, c'est que ce dernier reçoit les gaz plein la gueule! Le reste n' est que deblateraton subversive... Revolution!
duitse geheime dienst pro Europa? by janko Friday August 10, 2001 at 02:50 AM |
Joal schreef ... the majority of Black Bloc rioters were from Germany, which means that Germany's secret services were probably involved. Germany is clearly on the European side of this factional battle for control of the NWO ...
Joel verraadt zichzelf. Er is helemaal geen pro-europese geheime dienst in Duitsland. Sinds 1945 is de Duitse geheime dienst pro-Amerikaans. ALS er een Duitse geheime dienst in Genua aktief zou zijn geweest, dan zeker niet op pro-Europese wijze. Is het WAAR dat het merendeel van de "Black Bloc rioters" van Duitsland kwamen?
Ja doei by irmin Wednesday August 22, 2001 at 03:33 PM |
i.wolters@nivel.nl |
As someone else already suggsted, go visit Joel's webpage. This guy cannot be taken serious.
As far as the Blac Bloc, I wasn't in Genova so I can't be sure, but I do have insights on the BB actions in Gotenberg. And the only thing I can say is that these people in the BB were for real and no police or government paid informers/rioters. But hell, I can join them in a demonstration, so can you, so can the police. That's the risk of the way thei are operating. And believe me, if the police and the government sees an oportunity to put demonstraters in a bad spot (by using the oportunity to act as if they are the BB) they will do that. And they also know that this way demonstrators with the same goals get divided by arguing about actions these governments and the police are responsible for. And who is laughing?
It's time to pull it together, to focus on our common goals and not let us be weakened by police, governments and media like what's happening now!
Resist, all in your own way in a common fight.