Dear Tom the Fool There are several ill-fated statements that you make in your comparison between apartheid South Africa and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. 1) You base your entire article on two authors/academics - Lilienthal and Uri Davis. First mistake. To write an article as you just have (which is worthy of a doctoral study) you should have at least brought to light different views. Rather you were set on finding authors with the sole intention of backing your own premeditated argument. 2) In reference to your claim that most Jews are not of semitic origin (as you say with so much conviction): To what extent, if any, East European Jews of today are descendants of the Khazars is the subject of debate; however, historians, onomasticians, and geneticists have demonstrated that the Khazars are not the dominant population element. (Khazars From Encyclopedia Britannica) 3)The Semitic people are considered by some scholars to have consisted of the ancient Hebrew people [1] as well as Assyrians [2] and Akkadians [3]. 4)Yous statement concerning the fact that semitics are also people of arab origin is right, but to say that due to the fact that Jews represent only 10% of this category does not lessen semiticism of the Jewish people as you imply. Also anti-semitic language has mostly been attributed throughout history to people of Jewish origin rather than other origins. This is why it has been widely accepted that anti-semitism is the appropriate term to be given to 'racism against Jews'. You seem to be part of the new breed of thinkers who wish to blur the definition of anti-semitism. 5)You say that Israel was intended as an ethnic and racially exclusive state. This is also untrue in practice.Look at the figures - Ethnic groups: Jewish 80.1% (Europe/America-born 32.1%, Israel-born 20.8%, Africa-born 14.6%, Asia-born 12.6%), non-Jewish 19.9% (mostly Arab) (1996 est.) Religions: Jewish 80.1%, Muslim 14.6% (mostly Sunni Muslim), Christian 2.1%, other 3.2% (1996 est.) Languages: Hebrew (official), Arabic used officially for Arab minority, English most commonly used foreign language Now to compare with Syria: Ethnic groups: Arab 90.3%, Kurds, Armenians, and other 9.7% Religions: Sunni Muslim 74%, Alawite, Druze, and other Muslim sects 16%, Christian (various sects) 10%, Jewish (tiny communities in Damascus, Al Qamishli, and Aleppo) FRANCE: Ethnic groups: Celtic and Latin with Teutonic, Slavic, North African, Indochinese, Basque minorities Religions: Roman Catholic 83%-88%, Protestant 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 5%-10%, unaffiliated 4% As you can see, Tom the fool, Israel is no more ethnically or racially exclusive than Syria or France. Furthermore, it would be useful to look at the rights of Arabs living in Israel, to see whether they are legally repressed by the State: Israel is one of the most open societies in the world. Out of a population of 6.3 million, about 1.1 million — 18 percent of the population — are non-Jews (945,000 Muslims, 130,000 Christians and 100,000 Druze).1 Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; in fact, it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote. Arabs currently hold 10 seats in the 120-seat Knesset. Israeli Arabs have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel's Consul-General in Atlanta. Ariel Sharon's cabinet includes the first Arab minister, Salah Tarif, a Druze who serves as a minister without portfolio. Arabic, like Hebrew, is an official language in Israel. More than 300,000 Arab children attended Israeli schools. At the time of Israel's founding, there was one Arab high school in the country. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools.2 The sole legal distinction between Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel is that the latter are not required to serve in the Israeli army. This is to spare Arab citizens the need to take up arms against their brethren. Nevertheless, Bedouins have served in paratroop units and other Arabs have volunteered for military duty. Compulsory military service is applied to the Druze and Circassian communities at their own request. In Israel, arabs may use the same public services, eat in the same restaurants, live in the same areas and so on... THIS WAS NOT THE CASE IN SOUTH AFRICA MY GOOD FRIEND. 6) You state that Israel was imposed forcefully and that this caused the dismemberment of Palestine. For your info, Palestine was beforethe British mandate, under Ottoman rule and had no specific boundaries. Gaza belonged to Egypt for ex... Furthermore today what you call Palestine only represents less than 30% of what used to be mandatory Palestine. Jordan was created on 70% of mandatory Palestine (this sort of discredits your argument). Even in Jordan where Palestinians form the majority, they are ruled by a minority, the Hashmonite Royal Family.Secondly Israel was not imposed forcibly. It was decided upon in a democratic way by the United Nations General Assembly which accorded the remaining 30% of the land to be divided and allocated to the formation of a Jewish state with a Jewish charcter and also to a Palestinian State with an Arab/Muslim charcter. However, as we all know, a State of Palestine was never created on that attributed land, rather a war was unleashed on the newly created State of Israel...Hence the dismemberment of Palestine started long before our current century, and if already, everybody including the Arab countries, contributed to dismembering that particular region. 7) You say that Jews cannot trace ancestry. You are to a certain extent right in your comment, this is due to the fact that through the Jews history they have constantly been faced with pogroms, inquisitions, genocides, which have had as an effect, the loss of much information on the specific origins of many Jewish families. However, one thing is for sure, is that if you are Jewish, your mother is Jewish, her mother is Jewish, her mother is Jewish and so on... Conversion, especially in Judaism is not really an option and rather to convert to Judaism, history dictates that the case has been one of conversion out of Judaism, most often forced conversion. 8) If you claim that Israel is an apartheid state and that its Parliament enacts racist laws, than there are also racist arabs within that parliament who go along with these racist practices as arabs sit in Parliament as well (which to me proves the non-apartheid nature of the State of Israel). I do not belive that Blacks were members of the SA parliament during the apartheid. 9) Zionism or zion as you state is not an ideology. Zion represents the land of canaan, Judea and Samaria by biblical terms. Zionism most often refers to the 'longing for the return to the land of our forefathers'. For Jews, children of Moses, David and Solomon... this means Israel, the first Jewish state for a Jewish people. There is nothing in my view racist about being a zionist. Many Jews may not link their Judaism to the State of Israel, however technically speaking, this is where the Jewish religion is rooted and where they consequentially emanate from. 9) A distinction should be made between SA and Israel. Israel has for the last 10 years been in a process of arriving at a peace settlement with the Palestinians and vice-versa. What is occuring now in the region, is due not only to one side or the other. It is much more complicated than this. There are political realities which have shaped the events (different governments brought into power, with different views), social realities, religious realities, extremist realities, ethnic realities. Each side is to blame. Each side wants fervently to cut its umbilical chord to the other, but neither side knows how to reach that objective. In SA, the realities were different. You had on the one hand a white racist miinority ruling on a blck oppressed majority. If it would not have been for the activism of people like Mandela, SA DeKlerk Govornment would have never even thought of equalising rights with the SA. They managed to break free through peaceful means, why can the two WARRING parties in Palestine do the same. Here lies the big question. 10) Do you not think that the Palestinians are racist towards Jews? (linching of two Israeli reservists in Ramallah 2 years ago + Palestinian school texts + Palestinian media encitement to hatred and antoi-semitism as well as similar encitement in adjacent Arab countries such as Egypt (airing on national TV of a series called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is a very anti-semitic programme, the book written by the Syrian foreign minister on the BLOOD LIBELS OF THE JEWS). I need not go on. 10) "To be a good Jew one has to be critical of Zionism. In fact, to be a decent Jew one has to be opposed to the political programme of zionism and be therefore anti-zionist" . Lastly you state that 'to be a good Jew...'. I do not believe that it is for you to decide what being a good Jew is all about. I do not say that 'in order to be a good arab, a arab should be anti-mulim or anti-jihad or anti-sharia.In any case, who are you to judge what a DECENT JEW should be. Meaning if you are a zionist you are not a decent Jew. This is tom-follery and I hope that I have been able to give you some new food for thought.